Why You Need To Work Forever and Never Retire

by Life Outside The Maze

I’d like to let you in on something that I’ve grappled with in living my life outside the maze.  Early on, friends and loved ones noticed me not working a traditional job. They asked me how long I intended to take a break? Have I had any offers? Many suggested that I should tighten the belt spending wise because I do not have a job. There was also some concern that my lady is still working. I must therefore be free loading off of her. She may feel unable to leave her job if she chose.  I am working toward being more transparent. I think I have avoided some of these discussions to this point because they are tricky. The truth is that neither of us need to work to live our lifestyle and a traditional job does not provide anything for me right now. I am considering spending more money rather than less. I am doing this because we have budgeted and planned for doing some adventures.  Is this crazy?

#1 The American Myth About Hard Work

  I think there is a deep puritanical root in the foundation of American culture that work has inherent value and is itself moral.  This American value is one that I have lived by for my entire life and until now it has served me well.  For most of my career, I have been the guy that worked hard, worked fast, and pushed everyone else by example to raise the bar.  I still believe in performing well. I also believe that a traditional job has the very concrete value of providing for yourself and family so that you are not a drain on your community.  However, what if you have provided enough for your family to live off of income from that pile?  Would continuing on the same path just be greedy or wasteful of my time? It is, after all, money that I don’t need or may never spend. The work to get more money takes time that I can’t get back. Is there a risk of building too much wealth at the expense of my limited time?  Should I change the way that I make decisions about what to work on and what to work toward?

#2 A Global View of Work

As I write this post, I am sitting on this balcony in Frigiliana Spain:

Here, there is a siesta every afternoon and there is by law a maximum 40 hour work week average per year for each full time worker. The average person works a little over 2 weeks less (5.3% less) than in the USA (1687 versus 1780 Hours per year). As I look at this view from a 3 bedroom luxury house rented for about $100 a night, drink an amazing bottle of Rioja wine at a cost of $4, and eat bread, olives, and serrano ham at a total cost of around $2 I ask “are we just doing it wrong in the USA? After all, even Spain actually works more than Germany, France, and the United Kingdom. In fact, the USA has more average work hours than the majority of the European Union:

The USA is also the only developed country in the world without a single legally required paid vacation day or holiday (1).

#3 The Falsity of Retirement

Early retirement and the beach

The common falsity of early retirement is some vague image of sitting on a beach sipping umbrella drinks on vacation forever. This is like a chronically thirsty person envisioning how great it would be to sit and drink water forever. It kind of makes no sense and raises the question of whether we are all simply just delirious and dehydrated from overwork.

The notion of retiring early is sugar that helps to swallow the pill of needing to save, practice great self discipline and behavioral change, and trade near term gratification for financial security long term.  Along the way there, you learn, grow, and change. By the time you get there, you find out that retiring early is not at all what you thought it was and moreover that this is ok. It actually just means that after a honeymoon period and acclimating to your new reality of not having to work, you now get to apply yourself in work that you choose to do, non-traditional jobs, other endeavors of your choosing, or even some traditional job undertaken for new reasons. However, the key is that you continue to apply yourself. 

As anyone who is FI will attest to, attempting to just relax and not apply yourself, does not really work out and proves to be unhealthy and unsustainable.  Hell traditional retirees would tell you the same things. While there are certainly health benefits to retirement such as less stress and ability to exercise more (2), the data also shows that those traditional retirees that do not engage in a community or apply themselves in a meaningful endeavor post retirement are more prone to early death or depression (3) (4). Hence one has to be careful about using the term retired.

Perhaps the use of the term retirement all together is too flawed to be useful:

definition of retire. intransitive verb. 1 : to withdraw from action or danger : retreat. 2 : to withdraw especially for privacy retired to her room.

Merriam Webster

Retreating or withdrawing from action do not sound like what I was picturing for an early retirement at all.

#4 My New Work Philosophy

I am going to stand by what has become something of a motto for me. Once I achieved financial independence I decided that instead of working for others to achieve financial independence, I will now work for myself to achieve happiness.  In other words, instead of making someone else’s agenda happen in exchange for money, now I can work for my own agenda and perhaps even spend some money if need be to make worthwhile things happen. I will, however, continue to work.

My agenda at present happens to be writing to hopefully be part of a community for others and myself, doing a music project, learning Muay Thai, doing some adventures that I’ve always wanted to do ( like this trip to Spain), helping friends on a few of their projects, being more active as a father, and doing some investing endeavors.

This obviously is not a traditional job, but does it have more or less inherent value?  What determines this? 

For me, the claiming of financial independence had to be a conscious step in order to think differently and change my decision making away from being reliant on an employer to maintain a lifestyle and toward designing my own lifestyle and working for myself. In this new lifestyle, I may get involved in business at some point over the coming years. However, any earning is simply a possible optional byproduct of how I apply myself.

Final Thoughts on Working Forever

Our views about the value of work may be shaped by the place and culture where we live. Data and experience suggest that retirees benefit from reduced stress and better physical fitness. However a retirement of withdrawal, retreat, or inaction has also proven to be unhealthy among traditional retirees. Working by choice for something that you find meaningful post financial independence rather than working out of necessity as a cog in the machine is part of the freedom and joy of financial independence.

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22 comments

freddy smidlap June 14, 2019 - 10:30 am

we went to rioja about 10 years ago and san sebastian on the same trip. i couldn’t believe how inexpensive it could be to eat and drink good stuff over there. i remember being at a bar right at the sea and a glass of good wine was about $1.50 versus about 8 bucks for some barely drinkable swill in the states. i think the spanish have it right with the work ethic and just a good way to live. we have a friend who is native to spain and still lives there. she just makes due but always seems pretty content.

i think i’ll keep “working” on something when the w-2 days end. i really enjoy finance and investing and might work helping folks with that for free if i know them or for money if not. i know it won’t contain scheduling constraints and that’s the big thing.

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Life Outside The Maze June 19, 2019 - 11:11 am

Yeah after a few bottles of that wine, the inevitable topic of moving there once the kids are off on their own came up. It often does when we travel in varying degrees somewhere between fantasy and reality. I like your idea of helping folks with finances and may try some volunteer coaching sort of thing at some point as well.

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Abigail @ipickuppennies June 19, 2019 - 11:02 am

If you haven’t read it already, check out Weber’s book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. It does a great job at tying our obsession with work here in the States to our early Puritanical roots. It’s fascinating stuff. I read it when I was going on disability to help me understand where this all-consuming drive to work (that is, your personality/self-worth/worth to others being based on whether you work) came from. It was very therapeutic to help pinpoint some of the fallacies of the whole ethic.

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Life Outside The Maze June 19, 2019 - 11:06 am

Thanks for the recommendation Abigail, I will check it out.

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Joe November 3, 2019 - 5:16 pm

And for those of you that think retirement is not what’s it cracked up to be. Trying hanging off the back of a trash truck, no matter the weather, and let me know how you feel after 13 plus years of doing that. My body is broken, and at 59, I am tired. I look forward to the day when I can work if I want to, by my rules. There is something to be said to being able to look out the window during a blizzard, or freezing rain storm, and not at a stressful traditional job, because you have to be.

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Life Outside The Maze November 4, 2019 - 8:47 am

Thanks for sharing your story Joe. Just recently, I was talking to someone very close to me who was divulging that she feels like she will never be able to retire. I sympathize. Many have had set backs such as debt acquired when young, health issues, divorce, etc. Those of us who are in a position to retire or make work optional, have reason to be grateful. I am hopeful that some of what I share on this site is helpful on your journey as well.

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Adi November 6, 2019 - 4:54 am

I am from south africa and been in retirement for 7 months. Believe me I have had enough and am now planning two things: travel next year and
Start projects to help others from 2021. One project will be in farming and the others in childcare. The notion of retirement as in sitting at home and having a jolly good time is not for me as I feel I will be so bored and go banana. You have to be mentally and physically active. Yes I will also be helping these young guys with self management and financial management for free – they need help!

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Life Outside The Maze November 6, 2019 - 12:15 pm

Adi, I am with you. Sitting around turns out to not be much fun. I wish you luck with travel and projects and am inspired as well by your desire to help the younger generation. Be well on the path

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MICHAEL November 8, 2019 - 1:07 am

I have way more money than i need to retire am 55 and still work over 50 hours a week. I also volunteer for 7 hours , attend meetings and study. I sleep less than5 hours a day.
If i were to stop i would drop dead

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Life Outside The Maze November 8, 2019 - 7:34 am

That is awesome Michael, wow I’d love to hear what drives you on days where you’d just rather stay in bed? I’m inspired.

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Judy November 3, 2019 - 7:17 pm

I have retired 3 times, the longest period lasted 18 months. I keep finding interesting & amazing jobs that keep me active, engaged, and most likely healthier ( at least mentally). No, I don’t need the money, but I do spend it, give it away to less fortunates & donate to more charities, all the while having fun! How long will this last? Not sure…but for now, it’s working!

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Gloria November 3, 2019 - 11:26 pm

Thank you for writing this article. I’m working 3 different jobs and enjoy the money i get paid. found out after I retired that I need to work. Helping others in the medical field. Iam 68 yrs old. I hope to stay wirking as long as i can.

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LINDA November 4, 2019 - 4:46 am

Your article hit it right on for me, ” work to achieve happiness”. I’ll be retiring from my career soon at 50. People tell me, “you are too young”. But it is a life of just working. Work weeks could easily range from 60 to 80 hours and I rarely put in an overtime slip because I worried about my supervisor making payroll. I have missed out on holidays and even my grandmother’s funeral because of work. As we have achieved more financial stability my husband and I would go on vacation for several weeks. And you know I didn’t miss my work life and the place survived, barely but my absences made others step up.
So I will try to start telling people I am getting a new job, working to attain happiness. I have spent 25 years and my husband 31 years in public animal shelters, I have had glimpses of happiness but are overshadowed by high stress, anger, and sadness. This career has one of the highest suicide rates. Your article really help me see it is time to care for me and mine.

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Life Outside The Maze November 4, 2019 - 8:02 am

Thanks so much Linda. Interacting with others on this journey is why I write and your comment made my day. I also have missed many important moments due to urgent work things that today I can’t even recall. For me, I started asking one day how much money one truly needs in order to feel wealthy. It led me down a path of research and reading to start this site looking at working, success, and happiness in a new way.

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Susan November 4, 2019 - 5:28 am

Yes, the “trick” is to find purpose in any work environment you find yourself in. My idea of retirement means “not beholden to anyone’s payroll.” I can be on them if I choose…or not.

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Robert gale November 4, 2019 - 7:00 am

We all have to work,unless you were born in awealthy well to do family.of course you can’t take advantage of them financially.retirement should be a goal to acheive if you plan properly,if thats what you want.if you have a family you would want to spend time with them.especialy if you missed the opportunity to do so when they were growing up.everybodys idea or thought prosess is differemt .what works for one person migjt not work for another.our jounery in lfe is different.

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Life Outside The Maze November 4, 2019 - 8:06 am

This is a great point Robert. One thing I have learned since starting this site is how many different definitions of financial independence I have encountered and different paths to get there as well.

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Natalie November 4, 2019 - 7:25 am

I really liked this article. Would u consider giving me some tips on how to get into writing?

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Life Outside The Maze November 4, 2019 - 8:16 am

Wow Natalie, no one has ever asked me that as I don’t consider myself a writing pro. However, my advice would be to write when you have something to say and the writing will take care of itself. If you have a message that you are passionate about keep putting it out there. Eventually someone will see it and the more you write the better you will get 🙂

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Vernell November 8, 2019 - 5:04 am

Thank you for this article. I’m at work reading this. I’m Going to be 64 January 1,2020. At times I plan on working until 65. But not at my present job. It’s has become so institutionalized. That I have hate coming into work. So I’m working on my own business plan helping seniors.

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Life Outside The Maze November 8, 2019 - 7:35 am

Sounds interesting Vernell, and a definite need with seniors being such a huge group today

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